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The New Nimbys

November 15, 2010

Hi, my name is Colin Sexstone from Bristol City FC and I am a Nimby.

I want to build a new football stadium at Ashton Vale because I don’t want to redevelop the existing stadium at Ashton Gate IN MY BACK YARD!

Hi, my name is Jamie Baker from Sainsburys and I am a Nimby.

I want to build a superstore at Ashton Gate because I don’t want to develop the existing store at Winterstoke Road IN MY BACK YARD!

Hi, my name is Stephen Williams MP for Bristol West and I am a Nimby

We Lib-Dems want to build an Arena in Bristol South because we don’t want to build one at Temple Meads IN MY BACK YARD!

Hi, my name is Mike Norton, Editor of the Evening Post and I am a Nimby

I sacked George Ferguson as a columnist because I didn’t want anybody providing an alternative viewpoint to that of the football club IN MY BACK YARD!

Hi, my name is Steve Lansdown, major landowner at Ashton Vale

I can’t be at the BBC/BEP debate because I will have to pay taxes if I don’t stay IN MY BACK YARD!

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27 Comments
  1. November 15, 2010 9:34 am

    Lansdown could always video-conference his way through the bbc/bep debate to avoid jeopardising his complicated tax arrangements. Wouldn’t like to think he misses out completely on the opportunity to meet and talk with some local residents.

  2. Jumble permalink
    November 15, 2010 12:23 pm

    He went to the stadium drop-in centre in Ashton Vale a few weeks ago and spoke to local residents then.

  3. BobS permalink
    November 15, 2010 2:13 pm

    Yes. Is anyone counting the days Lansdown is in the country. Fortunately the BEP reports it every time.

  4. Richard Lane permalink
    November 15, 2010 10:30 pm

    Sacredspring The king of NIMBY’s speaks.
    We don’t want a stadium, a supermarket, an arena, an access road, housing at the allotments, Hotel, take away, World Cup, Prestige, Jobs, conferance facilities, 100s of millions £ of investment in our back yard.
    We want a shitty bit of grass that only dog walkers and trespassers access from their back gardens to dump their garden waste or have a bonfire, whilst stealing the landowners berries for pie making”.

  5. Richard Lane permalink
    November 15, 2010 10:32 pm

    Careful BobS, you could start to sound spiteful.

  6. Richard Lane permalink
    November 15, 2010 10:39 pm

    I expect George was sacked because he threw his toys out of his pram when he thought that Sainsbury’s was going to be passed, only to be surprised by easily influenced/bamboozled councillors on the committee, aided by his mate Simon and a Lyer, sorry liar.

  7. thebristolblogger permalink
    November 15, 2010 11:16 pm

    an access road

    take away

    How could anyone refuse these wonderful enticements? Can we have an underpass and a plastic furniture shed too please?

  8. November 16, 2010 1:19 am

    Mike Snortin Evening L>ost editor has held his hand up and said he’s completely biased in his reporting in favour of the new stadium on green belt.
    He then becomes a nimby in the same edition and makes out he’s on the side of the citizens trying to prevent the council car-boot sale of greenspace. Takes Nimbyism to new heights of skullduggery.

    He could at least have printed the Brussels complaint in full, or was top reporter Onion-head unable to unearth the interesting document?

    I suppose I’ll have to publish it if his piss-poor outfit can’t come up with a few more morsels of fact.

  9. Will permalink
    November 16, 2010 10:20 am

    I am pro stadium and against the selling of the park land.
    This is because the parklands are much more Village greens then Ashton Vale (Thousands have used the parks uninterrupted for hundreds of years not just 22 dog walkers for the last (at the most) 20)

    Thats not “skulduggery” thats being capable to reason on each case independently instead of taking a blanket extremist view. (like you do)

    Maybe George got the heave because the public lost faith in him and his interfering ways, in every Bristol project that doesn’t include “his holiness”. Also he was a crap writer.

  10. harryT permalink
    November 16, 2010 1:17 pm

    As a matter of law, parkland cannot be town green.

    Town green is green space which is used without permission. It is a complete misunderstanding to state that land must look like a “village green” – duck pond, cricket pitch etc. Because of the definition, the land is almost always unkempt land.

  11. Will permalink
    November 16, 2010 5:18 pm

    I didn’t say the parks were town greens (obviously they are parks)

    But you cant deny that they are much better used and should be protected over land that only 22 use. That is why I am in favour of the stadium and against Greenspace sell off, and to suggest it is double standards (like “SacredSpring” has) is ridiculous.

  12. November 16, 2010 7:37 pm

    Its hypocrisy, once the ostrich head is removed.
    Will -you haven’t presented any figures as to which of the green spaces or grass verges is better used.
    More use Ashton Vale than the 22 at the hearing, that’s been made clear lots of times.

    Evening Toast has jumped on a bandwagon once again, excellent cause though it is preserving green-space.

    But the hypocrisy is ranker than rank.

  13. November 16, 2010 7:44 pm

    Anyone want to see the Brussels anti-trust complaint in full?

    No sign of Mike Snortin coming up with the goods.

    I’ll give the Temple-Way Temple of Hypocrisy and Greed-Merchant Promotion one more day for luck-then its watch this space for another exclusive.

  14. Will permalink
    November 16, 2010 10:49 pm

    Its not hypocrisy, its wanting our historical parks and official recreational areas protected and our historical rubbish tips / wasteland developed, providing jobs, Bringing money into the area etc… you are the one with your head in the sand, Ashton Vale has 2 parks in walking distance, fields etc… already and they are the closest ward in Bristol to Ashton Court, Perfect for the type of recreation they claimed to use Ashton Vale Tip for.

  15. November 17, 2010 12:17 am

    Ok, no offence Will, but there’s a few grass verges in the BCC open spaces plan. You don’t appear to have much knowledge of the document I’ve read through from cover to etc.
    Have a look in detail at it. I’m not going to give you the link-find out with some graft like me.
    Ashton Vale of course is historical flood plain and grazing meadow. Get that so wrong you really undermine any further comment.
    Credibility fail, further comment only if you get some facts to hand.

  16. Will permalink
    November 17, 2010 10:32 am

    “Ok, no offence Will, but there’s a few grass verges in the BCC open spaces plan.”
    ” a few” being the important word there, there’s alot of valued parkland in there also (which is the the land I was obviously referring to) Parkland that is much better used and limited greenspace in those areas.

    All this adds up to it being more important to save (limited greenspace, historically used, etc…) than the ashton Vale site, (used at most for around 20 years by small section of Ashton Vale whos houses back onto it, not limited green spaces the fields stretch to Barrow Guerney, Two existing Historical parks in walking distance, 850 acres of woodland and meadows with free entry and free parking at ashton court 50 yards away)

    To claim that supporting the stadium and objecting to the park sell off is hypocrisy is moronic.

    Ed: You still need to read through the Area greenspace documents -there’s lots of it I’m afraid.
    Your opinions on Ashton Vale and what is important are not facts as you may like to think. The Greenbelt is exactly that which Town Green status is there to protect.

    sacredspring

  17. Paul Bemmy Down permalink
    November 17, 2010 11:05 am

    There was a certain irony at the Full Council yesterday, when it was pointed out that in a certain ward, the Lib/Dem councillors had advised their local group set up to fight the AGP, that they should consider applying for Village Green status. It was also pretty obvious that many Lib/Dem councillors were also active in opposing the sell-off in their own areas, but the best bit for me was when BJ said that unlike the opposition, the council always stuck to what it said. The temptation to shout “what about the Green Belt at Ashton Vale” was resisted. I left the heckling to the women who seem so much better at it than the men.(if i’m allowed to say that)

  18. BobS permalink
    November 17, 2010 11:34 am

    Will

    Your comments have no crediblity.

    The witnesses to Ashton Vale showed 60 years use of all of the land.

    Your representations that it is a tip are simply wrong.

    you and the Club and others seem to think that you can just make up whatever you want regardless of the facts and evidence. And then you call people liers when their evidence was provded to be true under intense cross examination at a heairng.

    I understand you support BCFC, but it is really very poor of you.

  19. November 17, 2010 1:12 pm

    Sounds like an another action-packed council meeting! You’d think that a packed vociferous house would at least tell them something about public opinion on greenspace. They ignore their electorate it would appear.

  20. Richard Lane permalink
    November 17, 2010 10:42 pm

    If you want.

  21. Richard Lane permalink
    November 17, 2010 10:48 pm

    Sacredspring
    Please print the document in full.
    That’s everything, complainants details as well.
    Where did you get it?
    Was it the same way Tony Dyer was gaining information about my private emails?

  22. Richard Lane permalink
    November 17, 2010 11:07 pm

    Will
    You have it in one.
    The people on this site only have one way off seeing things.
    They do not know how to differentiate between individual cases.

    Sacredspring
    Mike Norton has taken a fair bit of stick from me in the past.
    He is a Bristol Rovers supporter and has been accused of bias towards them on many occasions.
    This is one instance where he is using his intelligence when recognising that a new stadium is good for Bristol, especially south Bristol.
    And he also openly supports and promotes the World cup bid through his papers pages, something you get confused with when claiming, the daily press releases are from Mr Lansdown.
    He also recognises that you cannot sell off all your inner city spaces without that being detrimental to people living in the inner city, Ashton Vale is not inner city, it is adjoined by greenbelt which apart from exceptional cases, remains greenbelt.
    You would end up with even denser housing than already exists, something your fellow activists would seem to welcome and actually recommend, in an attempt to protect the greenbelt, Strange really.

  23. Richard Lane permalink
    November 17, 2010 11:39 pm

    BobS
    Contrary to what you say, no evidence was proven to be true, how could it?
    It was the inspectors “opinion” that it was credible, so who is making things up?
    I do understand that you don’t want this development, please don’t try to be misleading.
    She could have been mistaken, or was misled by submisions on queiry forms.
    The way a question is asked sometimes leads to the answer required, especially for a village green application.

    Tell me Bob, how have the applicants used the fields where the park and ride are, or the David lloyd centre since they were developed? Those areas were obviously some of the fields in use for twenty years as well . Or were those fields private property and they never ventured onto them, why weren’t they included in the application?

    There is no doubt that this application was submitted to stop the stadium, not as portrayed, to protect the fields for future use. That would be a bi product of the intention.
    To some, I’m sure that is the truth though.

  24. Richard Lane permalink
    November 17, 2010 11:44 pm

    Harry T
    It should also be used by a considerable number of people over that time.
    I don’t believe 22 people regularly dog walking and 180 occasional users, is considerable number for an area of 42 acres over a 20 year period.
    It’s also very obvious that not all the land could possibly have been used over that period.

  25. November 18, 2010 12:57 am

    You are a tad bit confused Mr lane. Bit less of the sauvignon before you comment next time.

  26. November 18, 2010 7:56 am

    Constant biased editorial is worthy of 1970’s East Germany.
    Good job blogs like this exist.
    The greenbelt sell-out supported by the Evening Toast is then followed by editor whinging that greenspaces musn’t be sold off.
    Rank hypocrisy I say.

  27. Tony Dyer permalink
    November 18, 2010 9:28 am

    What private emails?

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