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January 21, 2011

Snouts in the trough. Pie in the sky

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Pork Pie basics at Ashton Gate

It was always a bit suspect that any new jobs would materialise with the Massive store.

There may be a few more new jobs in the Sainsbury greed-merchants Mega-Store. To begin with. Maybe 450 jobs in total creating less than 100 new jobs only according to diligent research posted on the Bemmie issues forum.

http://forums.e-democracy.org/groups/bemmy-forum/messages/topic/4uNHd0hYOWzBg5JUzLarue

So where does the 800 jobs figure come from? Beats me-perhaps the community wrecking megastore employs 400 on 20hrs and another 400 on another 20hrs/week-hey presto! 800 jobs! Fact is no other competitor store employs many more than the magic 400 figure for a 100,000 sq.ft superstore.

Also question is, how long before the jobs drop back to old store levels and below? Like last time they expanded. We now know for a fact they broke every promise in the book and numbers employed are actually LESS than before the last expansion of the greed-merchants.

One other thing is known about multi-national greed-merchants. Take a short trip back down memory lane to the appalling treatment of Cadbury loyal staff by Kraft vultures last year. Massive lies by the Krafty-conners as they promised to keep the factory open to help win over British opinion and politicians. They use Keynsham workforce as pawns then sack them immediately and close factory, going back on their word and promises, topping up massive bonuses and share prices in the process.

So the new 400 jobs for the Monster Hypermarket really can be dismissed as blatent Sainsbury propaganda machine make-believe as they try to win over politicians. You can’t trust these conners further than you can throw their bulging cash-tills.

And then the jobs may all disappear into the ether as Sainsbury’s gets swallowed up by an even bigger dinosaur in the sick world  of the capitalism merry-go-round, where people and communities are ditched by the rich few, who dodge abroad, who are propped up by the banks then bailed out by the government, who gets the money for baling out the sick bankers from the people and communities taken for a ride in the first place. What a circus. Here it is at Ashton Gate in all its technicolor glory.

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37 Comments
  1. Paul Bemmy Down permalink
    January 21, 2011 11:58 am

    My surprise is why you find all of this such a surprise! Nothing it seems can now be taken at “face value”. Look at the latest revelation that the Olimpic Stadium may well not be used in future for Athletics when the last Gov. promised, in order to get the games, that it would be a lasting legacy. The arguement that it will not be economically viable should have been known at the time and the promise not made. If we as a country go back on our word, for whatever reason, then the credibility of this country will be where it deserves, at the bottom of the heap.

  2. January 21, 2011 7:27 pm

    You’re right-I should just give up. They’re all on the make and can’t be trusted.
    Survival of the fattest.
    Funny how weasel words from the British Olympic bunch match Blairs act today.

    I’m sick of the grotesque attitude of the big four greed-merchants who hoover up 85% of the countries groceries yet still crave for more. They want to destroy our way of life.

  3. Richard Lane permalink
    January 21, 2011 7:47 pm

    Oh yee that doth still have the power to ban, your rules state no ranting.
    Oh yeh, only the rules are made to comply with you and your thoughts.

  4. Richard Lane permalink
    January 21, 2011 8:00 pm

    Just for peoples information, the link above gives exactly the same information as the link in the previous topic.
    This is an old trick used to make it seem that there is more evidence coming forward. The reality is that it is nearly word for word the same as before. Which is an article written by Tony Dyer, who has the ability to present figures in a very ingenious way to seem the opposite of the truth.
    Remember the houses, ha ha.

  5. Deano permalink
    January 21, 2011 8:30 pm

    Is it just me or did that “ha, ha” at the end of Richard’s comment come over like the deranged laugh of a psychopath?

    Maybe that’s what happens when you post on OTIB and the only person who responds is yourself……five times!

  6. BobS permalink
    January 21, 2011 9:43 pm

    Rich

    are you aware that this is a blog aimed at opponents of massive supermarkets ?

    I think you should start posting on a site which is in favour of massive supermarkets. It will fit in with your world view more.

  7. January 21, 2011 10:06 pm

    Evening Toast needs to do the decent thing and tell the public the truth about the 800 jobs Sainsbury greed-merchant deception.
    ‘Grunter’ Norton and his porcine pillocks have puffed up the bent figures faster than you can say bacon sandwich.

    Hefty dose of pig-flu to all the porkers on the Hypermarket rip-off ride.

    Poor old rich no one seems to love him -I’ll continue to give him my time and space to demonstrate what a caring community means, even though he’s hell bent on his delusional conspiracy.

  8. thebristolblogger permalink
    January 22, 2011 2:02 pm

    I think you should start posting on a site which is in favour of massive supermarkets. It will fit in with your world view more.

    Does anyone know any massive supermarket fetish sites we can direct Richard to? Maybe ce could dress up in a Tesco uniform as he jerks off?

  9. Still Waters permalink
    January 22, 2011 11:36 pm

    Richard, yet again you’re blindly agreeing with conglomerate statistics simply because they suit your ideal – a new stadium.

    Your consistent accusations of a ‘dark nemesis’ of ultra-Green revolutionaries conspiring against ‘decent, law-abiding massive businesses’ are exactly the reason why I took the p*ss in the last blog article.

    Stadium supporters such as yourself are engaged in exactly the same tactics that you rage against in the anti-development lobby.

    In fact, we learned the tactics from you.. You have no-one to blame but yourself.

    Remember a golden rule: every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

  10. Still Waters permalink
    January 23, 2011 12:51 am

    “Bump
    This ones for you Sacredspring, because you read our site to gain ammunition.
    He has his own site where he opposes every aspect of our clubs plans, (Ashton Gate Blogger).
    He exagerates to the extreme and carries out personal attacks on Steve Lansdown, Colin Sextone, Guy Price and anyone associated with the clubs plans.
    His accusations are based on lies and he uses the computer to hide behind while carrying out his childish attacks.”

    A perfect example provided by yourself.

    (wipe the little flecks of foam off your mouth before you post though, it’s getting unsightly)

  11. Richard Lane permalink
    January 23, 2011 12:53 pm

    Not one of you posters have countered anything I’ve said, You have all carried out an attack on the poster, presumably because there is no answer.
    Conspiracy theories, are there because groups of protesters are linked in common causes. Take a look at the blog roll on this site, to see the links. it’s a question of you support us and we’ll support you. As I asked before, when nobody could answer. Why is there a link on the stop Sainsbury site, to the stop Tesco in Stokes croft site?

    Now to put you lot straight.
    I am not in favour of any supermarket development for the sake of it.
    I started this because there is so much exageration from the objectors and it needs to be countered.
    I don’t believe this will be as detrimental to the community or the environment as it is being portrayed.
    I believe that the development will help to bring much needed investment to south Bristol, whilst delivering what I think will benefit BCFC, it’s supporters and ultimately Bristol.
    No matter how much money the chaiman has, it is not fair to expect one person to fund the new stadium. The supporters past and presents legacy is in the existing site and the best way of using that legacy is by obtaining as much as possible for AG to put towards the new stadium. The other developments will all bring much needed employment, to south Bristol whether temporary during construction or permanently, in the Hotel, Conference Centre, Restaurant, stadium, Industrial units on the present Sainsbury site, also at the new store.
    Then there’s the extra housing ,which is much needed.

    I haven’t posted on OTIB for replies, it’s so that people can act in support of the supermarket, if they want to.

  12. harryT permalink
    January 23, 2011 5:10 pm

    Rich

    I believe that the link between the campaigns to stop Tesco in Stokes Croft and to stop Sainsburys in Southville is that they are both campaigns against large supermarket chains.

    The theory is that those who opoose large supermarkets might oppose them in more than one location. I know you might not grasp this as no footbaal ground is being built on the back of the Stokes Croft Tesco.

  13. Deano permalink
    January 23, 2011 6:00 pm

    Funny how Rich thinks it’s somehow strange that a campaign against a supermarket in South Bristol provides a weblink to a campaign against a supermarket elsewhere in the city.

    I can ony imagine the tantrum he would have if there was petition saying “Bedminster and Southville residents don’t want a supermarket at Ashton Gate” especially if people in North Bristol were being encouraged to sign it….

    Of course, being the lying hypocrite that he has shown himself to be, I expect he has no problem at all with a petition called “Bristol wants a new stadium not a town green” being promoted on the football fan sites of teams like Brighton and Hove Albion with fans with no connection to Bristol at all being encouraged to sign a petition supposedly about what Bristol wants…….

  14. January 23, 2011 9:05 pm

    Hypermarket rip-off riders are silent on the blatently bent Sainsbury employment promises.

    They are eating humble-pie alongside the pork pie belching greedsters.

  15. January 23, 2011 9:08 pm

    Thanks for the link rich you berk. Got tons more hits!

  16. Charlie Bolton permalink
    January 24, 2011 5:46 pm

    Hang on a minute, Rich. You say

    ‘Not one of you posters have countered anything I’ve said, You have all carried out an attack on the poster, presumably because there is no answer.’

    but as far as I can tell your posts are basically an attack on Tony Dyer – here and elsewhere. You even had a letter published in the Evening Post singling out women who live in this area as a target.

    I’m not actually sure what it is you are expecting anyone to counter. Conspiracy theory? It’s all the Green Party. I’ve responded to this in the past, and you just ignore it.

  17. Richard Lane permalink
    January 24, 2011 9:48 pm

    Charlie
    I have never had a letter singling out women that live in your area. I mentioned in a letter that some people from your area were linked in their opposition, their gender is of no concern to me. I have never said it’s all the green party. I have said that there is a link between the opposition groups. They are there for all to see on this site as well as others.
    I have never ignored a response from you if I have seen it, I do other things as well.
    As for this over egged conspiracy theory I am accused of. I merely state that the groups opposed to the stadium are linked by way of the SOGS.
    Tony Dyer, Pip Sheard, Tess Green, Glen Vowles, Yourself are linked to various groups Including the green party, opposing either the stadium or the supermarket. Now you may not have each others email addresses, (though some obviously do) or phone numbers. But like the planning meeting for Sainsbury’s, you all new what to do via FOE. There are other objectors of course that are not linked, I’ve only mentioned the obvious one here.
    As I said look at the links on this site.

    Harry T
    Poor try I’m afraid, the similarity of these developments ends with them being large organisations. Or are you saying that the opposition to the Sainsbury store is one based on anti capitlalism. If so the arguments used aginst it are a smokescreen.
    Are you still in favour of relocating the stadium to severnside with the subsequent loss to North st?

    Deano
    I have never lied, in any of my posts or statements. That’s not to say I haven’t been mistaken. Something I will own up to, which is more than some will admit to.
    If you followed this properly (you obviously haven’t), you would know that the village green application was supported and promoted by people all over the country As Stillwaters. The greenbelt application was aslo fought nationwide, while the Sainsbury/ Tesco plans have been fought to some degree nationwide, at least region wide while being promoted as opposition by a group of local residents.
    Only recently was the stadium petition promoted more widely.

  18. Richard Lane permalink
    January 24, 2011 9:52 pm

    Sacredspring
    The link was free of charge and a pleasure. Now even more people are reading the utter rubbish you are spouting. Funny really because you and others were saying how sad it was that my post was being ignored.

  19. Richard Lane permalink
    January 24, 2011 10:06 pm

    Here is another example of some linked groups, but this time they claim (largely BS3).

    Stop Sainsbury’s are a group of local (largely BS3) residents. Members of the group gave three minute submissions to the Planning Committee hearing the first Sainsbury’s planning application in July 2010 and persuaded a majority of councillors to refuse it. They did not accept the evidence Sainsbury’s submitted on the retail and traffic impacts of their proposed superstore. (they accepted Tony’s version)

    Sainsbury’s immediately announced that they would put in a planning second application as well as an appeal to the Secretary of State on the first application which will be heard in May if Sainsbury’s second planning application fails. A planning appeal will involve a 5-8 day public inquiry and considerable time and effort from local residents and the Council to oppose it.

    (We have continued to meet regularly since July 2010 and build our campaign) because the experience of other areas is that supermarkets come back time after time with planning applications and appeals until they get their way. (For details of other campaigns go to http://www.tescopoly.co.uk.) After researching the history of the Sainsbury’s Ashton Vale site and reading their new planning application, we have produced a document ‘Sainsbury’s 6 myths about Ashton Gate’. It will be widely circulated to City Councillors and MPs and in the media along with a request to City Planning officers to review their previous decision to recommend planning approval. Go to our Six Myths page.

    All funding for the campaign including our campaign leaflet has come from the individuals taking part. The Sainsbury’s superstore is opposed by:

    •Greater Bedminster Community Partnership
    •Healthy City Group- Bristol Partnership
    •59 North Street traders – who have objected to all three planning applications
    •Playing out
    •Friends of Greville Smyth Park
    •Bristol Civic Society
    •Bristol Friends of the Earth
    •Bristol South Green Party
    : I’m shocked at the inclusion of these groups.
    Not linked? your having a laugh.

  20. BobS permalink
    January 24, 2011 10:19 pm

    Rich

    Every one involved in bringing the Town Green application is from Ashton Vale. Every single witness. The town green case is run entirely by Ashton Vale people. You ate simply making it up to suggest that outsiders have done anything other than cheer them on – and very quietly at that compared to the cheering for the landowners in the press and in the internet. You are spreading lies and deceit to suggest that the town green campaign is run by outsiders

  21. Richard Lane permalink
    January 24, 2011 10:27 pm

    Stillwaters
    How on earth could you learn tacticts from me?
    I did not get involved prior to any planning applications, merely as a response to the objections.
    If it was the case of you learning from me, then you have learnt well. For you truly are a bunch of lying, hypocrtical, sad, physcopathic, unloved, stadium loving, attacking, Tesco uniform wearing, jerk off merchants. Just like me.

  22. Richard Lane permalink
    January 24, 2011 10:49 pm

    BobS
    Obviously all the applicants and witnesses are from Ashton Vale. I have never said otherwise. It would not be a legal application otherwise.
    I am not spreading lies and deceit. I challenge you to tell me one lie I have made.
    Please read my posts properly before making these accusations.
    Ask yourself this one question. What are you and other people that are not from Ashtonvale doing on this site, if you are only fighting for a village green?
    Can you tell me what internet sites are cheering for the landowners?

  23. Deano permalink
    January 24, 2011 11:03 pm

    “I challenge you to tell me one lie I have made.”

    That’s easy – you’ve lied in this very thread.

    “Just for peoples information, the link above gives exactly the same information as the link in the previous topic.”

    It doesn’t.

    There’s also;

    “The council owned car park at Ashton Gate will remain a car park”

    It’s won’t.

    You also wrote a letter to the Bristol Evening Post from Richard Lane, Ashton Vale.

    Unless you have moved from Knowle, that’s another lie.

    That 3 lies, and that only took me a couple of minutes.

    Anybody else want a go?

  24. January 25, 2011 8:09 am

    Porksters have blatently promoted bent job figures.
    Fridge-full of pies from the Merchants of Greed, that is Lord Guernsey and the hypermarket mobsters.

  25. harryT permalink
    January 25, 2011 11:06 am

    I am struggling to understand this conspiracy theory.

    As I understand it, a large group of Southville Residents has complained about plans for a massive supermarket on their doorstep. It appears that these people have organised themselves to oppose the plans and that some of them continue to oppose the plans. Despite having defeated the plans twice through research and coordination of effort, these same poeple are now opposing the plans a third time – again in an organised and coordinated fashion. They continue to admit that they are organised and coordinated in their leaflets.

    Oh – and various Bedminster and South Bristol based environmental groups and local groups also oppose the plans for a massive supermarket in their residential area for environmental and local reasons. These groups do so largely because these groups are made up of Bedminster and South Bristol residents who oppose massive supermarkets on their doorstep.

    Is that it ? Is that the conspiracy ?

    And yes Rich – the various large ex-industrial sites in Hallam and Severnside are far better suited to both large football stadiums and massive supermarkets due to their existing transport links, their brown field status and the fact that there is not a large residential community whose lives will be blighted by the project.

  26. harryT permalink
    January 25, 2011 11:12 am

    Rich asks “Can you tell me what internet sites are cheering for the landowners”

    1. Otib
    2. Bristol Evening Post
    3. Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club and supporters website
    4. GWE Business West
    5. Bath Football Club
    6. Bristol Ladies Football Club
    7. Yoevil Town Football Club
    8. Any other minor football club other than Rovers in the general area
    9. Anyone else who re-tweets or posts the endless “City United” emails, leaflets, tweets and other propoganda

  27. Richard Lane permalink
    January 26, 2011 9:46 am

    Deano
    The links I refer to are about the so say job losses. Tony Dyer wrote an article in Bristol 24/7 News about what he sees as job losses, Gareth Rae has taken that story and nearly word for word reproduced it in the second link.
    You have taken my statement “The council owned car park at Ashton Gate will remain a car park” out of context. Iwas stating that it would not be part of the supermarket development buildings. And as such alters little from it’s present use, which is for vehicles. It has also I believe changed from the original plans which I based my statement on.
    The Evening post made a typo with my address. When commenting on a subject to them, there is a section for the subject matter, this is where I’ve entered Ashton vale. The mistake is theirs, I have made mistakes in statements but I heve never lied in statements.

    HarryT
    It does noy surprise me that you fail to understand the theory, if there is one.
    I have said that there are links between certain groups and they are there for all to see.
    All those organisations you have listed, are supporting the idea of a stadium only.They are not internet sites set up to support that cause. They have added their voices to existing sites, as a result of a concerted effort by oposition groups campaigning against the stadium, greenbelt developments, access to the stadium and opposition to the World Cup bid.
    They have all done this as a reaction to those campaigns to show that there is support for the stadium, countering the negative claims. With the evening post site, it is also open and full of people opposed to those developments.
    I do not know of any group formed to support the Sainsbury development or a website like those set up and used for opposition voices.

  28. Country Cousin permalink
    January 26, 2011 2:02 pm

    Richard,
    Why do you think it is big news that certain people will work together in various groups to oppose something they feel strongly about? Of course they will. When ordinary people with jobs, families and other things they would rather be doing come up against organisations that pay people to lobby for their cause (and I am talking about paid PR people and development managers like Guy Price, not insinuating that you are paid) and have millions at their disposal to pay for solicitors, planning consultants and traffic consultants etc etc, why do you think it is so wrong for them to organise a couple of websites and send letters to their councillors and point out what they think of what those highly paid consultants are saying? Its called David vs Goliath and no matter how you try to portray it as a large conspiracy of evil doing green slime out to prevent the common man from enjoying his well earned R&R, those people still have the odds stacked well against them. What HarryT and others were pointing out was that the political and financial resources put into supporting the plans (all elements of it) far outweigh those put into opposing it. Every exageration made by the club and developers reaches far more people than every exageration made on this site, although I see you are doing your best to boost Sacred Springs hit rate.

    So, even if your grand theory of collusion is right, so what? It has about as much relevance as that theory developed by Ole /Mike ford / Rob Fernandes or whoever it was about a grand collusion between GF and Simon Rayner.

  29. Deano permalink
    January 26, 2011 4:40 pm

    So there you go folks, straight from the horses mouth…

    When Richard says something is “exactly the same”, he actually means “nearly the same”

    and when he says ““The council owned car park at Ashton Gate will remain a car park”, he doesn’t actually mean that ““The council owned car park at Ashton Gate will remain a car park” but something else.

    And not only that, but apparently the Evening Post can’t even be trusted to get simple facts like somebody’s address right. If I was you Richard I would refuse to talk to them again until they correct “their” mistake – after all, it makes you look as if you are lying and we all know how much you hate being made to look a liar. You have complained about it haven’t you Richard?

  30. Paul Bemmy Down permalink
    January 26, 2011 5:11 pm

    Groups getting together to achieve their aims.
    “Bristols World Cup bid was overseen by an executive board made up of the Chief Ex. of GWE Business West, Bristol City FC and BC Council. All three made financial contributions…….The SWRDA also contributed financially …..Bristol City FC and WESPORT seconded staff…. alongside City Council staff….”
    Am I right that apart from the football club, all the others are spending my money? Shame they didn’t ask me first!

  31. Richard Lane permalink
    January 26, 2011 10:18 pm

    Deano
    As I said, the links give the same information.
    The car park statement is down to interpretation, the context it was meant and how it was taken can differ if someone back then was being petty trying to score a point.
    I could not be bothered about the wrong address, why don’t you take it up with them as you find it so important. Of course as with other things printed, they might just have done it to provoke a response.

    Country Cousin
    Of course people will work together in a joint cause. I have no problem with that.
    We have examples though where it is not just David V Goliath, it’s more a question of lot’s of Davids V Goliath.
    Ron Morton opposed the Tesco development at Ashton Gate to help his cause at Shortwood, they were unrelated developments. He then followed that up with a petition at Downing St against the new stadium, again unrelated developments. I can’t specify his involvement in other things but, he was also very prominent in his support of the Village green application. His group are linked to other groups fighting their own battles.
    Is he really opposed to these developments, or is it because it will help his own cause?

    DRAG opposed the stadium because they thought it could set a precident of greenbelt development, it was unrelated to the development they were fighting.
    Green party members have fought against all of these proposed developments.
    I believe that the initial opposition to the Tesco store was politically instigated, with far more people opposed to those plans than to Sainsbury’s.
    What I am saying is that the opposition has overlapped from one group into another, to help each others causes, and there the cooperation ends, it is collusion.

    We have recently had councillors from North Somerset, doing their utmost in support of the village Green, in what is plainly a ploy to have the stadium debate reopened, for what can only be personal reasons while ignoring the decision of their fellow elected councillors.
    Tony Dyer has opposed every single step of every single application. He can’t surely be against everything, to the point of making official complaints to Europe can he?
    No doubt we’ll see him in as an independent retail employment advisor next (how many hats can he wear), rubbishing the Job predictions at the Sainsbury’s planning meeting.

    Are you suggesting that to submit plans for the stadium and the other developments, they should be produced on the back of a fag packet, or properly presented?
    These experts are required nowadays to provide the thousands of pieces of information for planning applications of this scale. Paying for and Promoting the schemes is therefore bound to cost millions. Do you think people investing large sums of money in a development, would not want to protect that investment and offset opposition?
    If it were a garden shed, someone would complain.

    I believe that in all these cases, the level of actual opposition to each development has been swelled and exagerated by the involvement of people from unrelated cases.

  32. ali permalink
    January 26, 2011 11:29 pm

    I haven’t been following it as closely this time; written my letter, hope like hell the councillors don’t get too browbeaten by the post but haven’t spent much time reading about it. I’m just catching up and gee Richard, I can’t believe you’re still exactly the same. Swearing that black is white, that 2×2=5 and that if it equals four then that never mattered because you’re all wrong anyway. Why do you bother on sites like this? You’re not going to convince anyone because you’re talking crap, all the time.

  33. Richard Lane permalink
    January 27, 2011 9:06 pm

    Ali
    If You think I’m talking crap you obviously haven’t read the posts from the other correspondents.
    I haven’t changed because I know that the bullshit spouted by the opposition is the same exagerated crap that’s always been spouted. Maybe this time the councillors will see through the double/triple representations from the likes of Ben, Tess, Alice, George, Charlie, Steve, Pip, and the rest that think they speak for everyone in South Bristol. In reality they only speak for the the minority of people in South Bristol, most of whom are located in the Southville district (not ward). Remember, George is well on his way to being a big organisation. Because of their closed social circles, they don’t actually know what non theatre going people think.

  34. Richard Lane permalink
    January 27, 2011 9:19 pm

    Ali
    As an after thought, could you list the crap you say I’ve written, then try to explain why you think it is crap. Instead of once more attacking the poster. Make it simple, try one statement at a time. You should have the edge on me, as I’m only a builder with a limited grasp of the English language, while you are a well educated advocate of the Theatre, especially the Tobacco Factory, where someone with your views and name is employed.

  35. January 27, 2011 9:57 pm

    Yawn-conspiracy…. zzzzzz.

    The reality us residents are faced with is Sainsburies have once again served up a multipack of pork pies. There will not be the fantasy figure of 800 jobs . Not 700, 600, or 500.

    The area will suffer a net loss of jobs if the Greed Merchants are allowed to damage our neighbourhood with the Monster store.

    Residents fight back against billionaire club owner and Multinational greed merchants who are hell bent on wreaking Hypermarket nightmare.

    Brave residents protect their streets and families and way of life.

  36. Ali permalink
    January 27, 2011 10:26 pm

    Hiya,

    I’m a little sorry for the slightly intemperate tone of the last post. I was writing on a mobile phone for the first time. It takes ages and I was shorter than I would normally have been. I also really don’t want to get back to being involved in pointless flame wars that take up loads of time. I’m pretty sure I’ve never attacked you before, as you suggest. I don’t actually think I attacked you this time. I was curt, as I have admitted.

    Yes, I run the TF theatre. Slightly surprised that you know that and I hope you didn’t google it. If you did then you really are spending too much time on this. This: “someone with your name and views is employed” is a weird statement. I’ve never expressed any views on the the supermarket in any sort of theatre capacity: any comments I’ve made have been made as a local resident – I live less than a mile from AG. I’ve said no to theatre mailing lists being used by people that want to campaign against it and when I was interviewed by local news (as a random passer-by) about the issue I didn’t give my occupation and appeared as ‘resident’. In short, you didn’t know the views of the Ali that runs the theatre until I just confirmed it was me. I think you assume that anyone who works in theatre is bound to be against football. I’m not; it’s not my favourite sport but I’ve been to more football matches than most other live sports. The chair of the theatre, my boss, has been a BCFC ticket holder since the ’80’s. Another board member has written a book about visiting every one of the 92 grounds. And so on.

    If you want one example then I’ll take one close to home. You said, possibly on this site (I looked through various places last night and can’t remember all of them), that George opening the Brewery theatre – the 90 seat capacity theatre on North Street with tickets from £5 – was a threat to theatres in central Bristol and would cause them to close down. That’s silly.

    I agree with you that some people who are against the supermarket talk a lot of crap. And infuriating as I find your refusal ever to admit any scintilla of error I think you cross the line a lot less than certain others. I do still wonder why you bother going on a site like this though.

  37. January 28, 2011 7:32 am

    Pompous working-class hero crap from lane has been delibarate conspiracy to block up all the message boards from day one. Just look at his post count everywhere.
    He thinks he’s the only one who works for a living and is entitled to an opinion.
    Not worth responding to his delusions.

    What about the job figures ???

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