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Trick Question: When is a greenspace not a greenspace?

May 10, 2011

A: When Councillor Peter Abraham decides it is or isn’t of course.

Mr Abraham – …….– believes the ongoing uncertainty on the future of the site (Ashton Vale TVG) has done Bristol no favours.

He said: “We’ve mucked about and it’s dragging on. We ought to take the decision now. A report should be brought for decision whether to accept or reject the independent inspector’s advice.

“We’ve wasted months and months, with arbitration and talks breaking down.

“Sainsbury’s is ready, the deal is there waiting but we as a council are not shown to be facing up to these issues.

“My personal view is that I am convinced we should reject the inspector’s advice.

“I don’t think this qualifies as a town green and it brings the process into disrepute.”

Evening Toast Article today

Ah! the true Tory stalwart who cuts through all that red-tape and bureaucracy. The way he says ‘Sainsburys is ready’, the Praying Mantis about to strike South Bristol is no doubt a jolly good thing for Mr Abrahams and the rich-list mates.

Hang on a minute, isn’t this the same bloke who said this six months ago?..

Our parks need improvements, but our open spaces need protection. It is as simple as that. I am sure an equitable solution to these problems can be found, but to doggedly go on – or hide behind – the consultation process is a waste of time and money.

How many more people do you need to tell you, Barbara, that they do not want their green spaces sold off?

Councillor Peter Abraham, Deputy Leader, Conservative Group.
November 30, 2010

Tory Pillock. One greenspace for the rich another greenspace for the poor.

  1. Paul Bemmy Down permalink
    May 10, 2011 1:56 pm

    Quite simply, Full Council cannot make this decision ( the words of someone who may have to) because most would not have had the required training and this would leave the Council open to legal challenge. Peter Abraham must surely know this. In life there are many cases where people with the same interests, school contacts, play golf together, neighbours perhaps or just work in the same industry look out for each other for mutual benefit. This doesn’t apply only to rich people but may well be the case here.

  2. May 10, 2011 11:27 pm

    I agree with the difficulty of an unbiased decision. Abraham appears to be picky with his greenspace criteria, and like most other councillors will have or will have expressed an opinion already.
    So Abraham has conveniently ruled himself out of the decision making procedure as have a few other on the ball councillors, who’ve been expressing a preference in advance.
    That way they get to try and influence the decision but will avoid the worst of the flack if they get it wrong. Crafty old politicians.

  3. Richard Lane permalink
    May 11, 2011 7:46 pm

    Perhaps as you say, the full council cannot make a decision due to a lack of training. That does not stop them debating it as the full council, a debate which would at least give the whole of Bristol, a proper voice from it’s elected members. In fact I don’t even see anything wrong with a vote from the full council on it’s preferred option, then let it go to the rights of way committee to decide.


    Add Tess Green to the crafty old politicians list.

  4. bobS permalink
    May 11, 2011 8:12 pm


    I am so glad you are back. I was worried you might have given up due to the FACT that your misrepresentations and slanders had been so easily and frequently exposed by Deano and Mr Dyer.

  5. Still Waters permalink
    May 11, 2011 8:21 pm

    Rich, “That does not stop them debating it as the full council, a debate which would at least give the whole of Bristol, a proper voice from it’s elected members.”

    The council can debate the issue in whatever form it wants to take, but legally it can only accept or refute the law as recommended by the Inspector, and the evidence put to her.

    An example:

    Applicant: My lawn is mine, because I’ve used it for 20 years

    Inspector: Yes, in law, I agree

    Council: We want the lawn, so we disagree

    Judicial Review: The Inspector is right. Council loses.

  6. harryT permalink
    May 11, 2011 8:59 pm

    It is quite clear to me that the old Richard Lane has been sacked. This new Richard Lane has a completely different writing style, particularly evident on the newer topic.

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