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Speechless Lansdown lectures Long Ashton taxpayers

September 18, 2011

Bit of a shocker the latest Evenmore Lost article on the TVG saga.
I mean-is anyone of a sound mind going to listen to one of the countries top money grabbers and non-domiciled tax diddlers pontificate on how a democratically elected parish council should spend their money? ~If Long Ashton council want to defend their residents from his building bonanza onslaught they get my admiration and praise. Someone’s got to stand up against the megalomaniacs excesses.
Still, he’s not alone as the new idiot season gets underway. Dimwitted Dawn Primarolo is now pestering Pickles for intervention claiming the LA council are wasting money. Makes you wince when you think how much has been spent on her salary and expenses over the years. Don’t think Pickles will give a full English breakfast what the failed Brownite MP petitions.

  1. thebristolblogger permalink
    September 19, 2011 6:18 am

    In the last available year 2008-09, the Dim Prawn claimed £20,798 in second home allowances. She’s also been known to have ‘flipped’ homes in the past to maximise her allowances.

    That’s not a waste of money?

  2. Paul Bemmy Down permalink
    September 19, 2011 10:43 am

    Was it not Dawn who as Paymaster General implemented the Child Tax Credit where you could claim for children without having to prove their existance? “Bonanza Day” for every fraudster in the land.

  3. Deano permalink
    September 19, 2011 12:23 pm

    From 2004:

    A series of measures to protect tax revenues from fraud, evasion and avoidance were outlined in the Pre-Budget Report today.

    Paymaster General Dawn Primarolo said:

    “The measures announced today demonstrate the Government’s determination to tackle tax avoidance and create a fair environment for all.”

    But then again, Dawn does have a habit of performing u-turns

  4. September 20, 2011 6:52 pm

    According to latest EP reports there is serious gagging going on at Long Ashton parish council meetings.

    Dawn P is playing the role of shifty MP as if she were born into the job.

  5. Richard Lane permalink
    September 21, 2011 6:41 pm

    Are you implying that shifty Dawn is gagging the Long Ashton Councillors?
    Or that the councillors are gagging others from free speach?
    Or is the EP lying in it’s report?
    Your comment is slightly confusing, please can you clarify.

  6. thebristolblogger permalink
    September 21, 2011 8:08 pm

    Yes Mr Spring could you confirm:

    Is the Post lying?
    And do bears shit in the woods?

  7. Richard Lane permalink
    September 21, 2011 9:56 pm

    Could Mr Spring also confirm if, as insinuated by the legendary Mr Big Logger, that the post story referred to, regarding local ratepayers turning up at the council meeting to voice their concerns about the councils actions, only to be denied that opportunity and that the venue for that meeting was changed at short notice, is a complete fabrication by the EP.
    Please confirm that the Post is lying.

  8. September 21, 2011 10:38 pm

    I can confirm that nobody was gagged, not with gaffer tape or Dawns fishnet tights, but just like any council meeting across the land one has to table a question in advance.
    That applies to anyone, Lansdown stooges or TVG’ers.
    Otherwise meetings degenerate into slagging matches or worse, like the OTIB forum or ThisispisspoorBristol.

    A judge has finally acknowledged that the Lansdowns campaign to concrete the greenbelt has been accompanied by intimidation of local residents and ordered the Evening Posers to cease their vindictive targeting of individuals which has been detrimental to the democratic process. A judge has decided that they must be gagged for the public good and not before time.
    Mr Lane would do well to remember that I too have the power to gag.

  9. Bobs permalink
    September 22, 2011 8:45 am

    Also, Anthony Butcher on his website makes it very clear that after the meeting they did speak to the BCFC “12”, the only people in Long Ashton who are in favour of the stadium.

    Butcher was elected to the LAPC on a manifesto of stadium opposition. He is one of the few politicians to actually act on a manifesto promise.

    When will this tiny minority of stadium supporters in Long Ashton back off and let the LAPC get on with its manifesto promises.

  10. Richard Lane permalink
    September 22, 2011 8:15 pm

    Ooh! I’ve been threatened with a gagging order. Let me have a look through the telephone book to see if there’s anyone I know that gives a shit.

    I learnt with interest the other week, that people using blog sites could soon face prosecution, or civil litigation cases against them for libelous accusations and lies.
    This can’t come quickly enough in my opinion with the total lack of moderation on sites like this. As it is there is no recourse for the the type of people that make these wild accusations and claims, I note you’ve been a bit reserved lately.

    can you tell us all how you think you know that only 12 people in LA are in favour of the stadium. Or are you making it up? Or was it the only 12 that new where the meeting was, as it had been moved at short notice?
    That’s the thing about anti stadium or anything anti people. They make it their business to do all in their powers to oppose things, they then think because nobody knows what they are doing, people must support his cause. Most people are apathetic to politicians and their promises.
    I’ll bet there are many things in manifestos that once people are elected surprise the voters.
    Tell me, did he stand for election with this manifesto pledge as his main promise, or was it hidden at the bottom of his promises? I wonder what his percentage of the parish actually voted for him, or actually voted for anyone.

  11. thebristolblogger permalink
    September 22, 2011 9:16 pm

    I learnt with interest the other week, that people using blog sites could soon face prosecution, or civil litigation cases against them for libelous accusations and lies.

    Where did you read that bollocks? Libel laws have always applied to blogs and the internet.

    The reason people don’t get sued is because they’re not libeling anyone. Disagreeing with the stupid plans of some money bags tax dodger from Guernsey is not libelous.

  12. Bobs permalink
    September 23, 2011 8:03 am

    Anthony Butcher’s main manifesto pledge was stadium opposition.

    He comments regularly on the BEP message boards as well. Everyone in Long Ashton knows that he is anti-stadium. And he got over half of all votes cast – almost unheard on in modern politics.

    The BCFC “12” may have voted for the liberal, but he didn’t get in. Those “12” must learn to accept that this is a democratic nation.

  13. Richard Lane permalink
    September 25, 2011 7:45 pm

    Big Logger
    Perhaps you don’t read everything, so this might be one story you’re missing. It was referring to the difficulty in finding the actual person that’s been libelous, plans are afoot to make this easier, leading to more legal actions being taken.
    Disagreeing with someones plans is as you say not libelous. Accusations of greasing the palms of council officials, or making wild claims with absolutely no proof, just a biassed opinion is. Attributing statements to certain people to portray that person as a liar or fraudster is defamation of character. Accusations of the press lying, or anybody else come to that, with again no proof are, libelous.
    The reason they have not been sued so far, I believe is that the people making those claims are tiny and inconsequential in the wider field of things. If things don’t go to plan then perhaps there may be repercussions for those people making the wild accusations and libelous statements. That’s not a threat, it’s just a scenario that could happen.

    I personally don’t think it fair when groups of people hide behind a pseudonym and carry out attacks on peoples character, with no fear of retribution, and in my opinion those people are down in the gutter with the rest of societies low life. Cue the usage of pseudonyms on OTIB, which I’d like to remind people that they are there as supporters of a football club and not joining a campaign group to argue their views. They have user names to show some sort of signal as to their character or where they are from, they have to sign up and abide by proper rules and their details are known to the moderators. It should also be pointed out, that the OTIB site is very well moderated and no amount of abuse or bullying is tolerated, unlike this site.

  14. Richard Lane permalink
    September 25, 2011 8:10 pm

    Thanks for supplying the link to his manifesto/propoganda bulletin.
    This is the same rubbish and distortion of reality concerning the stadium, parking, funding, and land transfers, claims of noise and light problems, plus the fact that it might blight their impressive views of that section of greenbelt (which is impossible because of the elevated road and landscaping). This utter tosh has been doing the rounds from the outset. The only thing I’d like to know is who dreampt up the rubbish in the first place, was it him or was it a culmunative effort by all those opposed? The arrogance of a the man, again someone from outside the boundaries of Bristol, to tell the city or the club what they should plan is unbelieveable. I am not surprised he was elected, he’s probably frightened people into voting for him, and the poor gullible souls fell for it.

  15. Richard Lane permalink
    September 25, 2011 8:41 pm

    I’d also like to point out that Mr Butcher was elected on his manifesto against the stadium (according to some), yet less than 20% of the parish voted for him, while obviously not all of those 1,170 odd voters did so in order to register their wishes against the stadium, they supported him regardless of his stance.
    Reading his posts and propoganda, you’d almost think he believes his own distortions of reality.

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