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Bristol Mayor- Shite MP’s, Councillors and Billionaires banned?

February 12, 2012

Here’s the questions they won’t be putting on the referendum.
Like would you ban all MP’s and councillors because they are shite?
And would you ban anyone from standing with a portfolio of bendy buses, private jets, or motorised rickshaws ?

That first poll sounds like a rant from Peter Hargreaves. I need to start employing him as a sub. The poor chap is obviously getting a bit bored tending the cabbages and has started on the rhubarb.
In case anyone thinks I’m a bit harsh on the councillors there is still time to get a few more digs in and even may be some polls to offer support for the soon to be redundant cabinet, new Mayor = doom for most of them.

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32 Comments
  1. Thomas permalink
    February 12, 2012 4:07 pm

    So much bollocks on this site.

  2. February 12, 2012 6:35 pm

    This site gives you the chance to seriously enter into the Mayoral debate.
    The banana poll is result of Jaya promoting a mayor for Bristol on the basis that Hartlepool elected the football team monkey mascot, and the fantastic job he’s done like not give out free bananas to all schools. But he has got re-elected twice and organised the tall ships race to go to Hartlepool. Therefore it must be good for Bristol to get a Mayor says unbiased Jaya a small business owner and employer.
    http://www.bristol247.com/2012/02/10/your-say-why-an-elected-mayor-will-let-bristol-be-as-amazing-as-it-deserves-81806/

  3. Richard Lane permalink
    February 13, 2012 12:35 am

    Sacredspring
    Instead of all the shite you write, why don’t you actually have a proper poll, listing all the green, anti capitalist type of person and their attributes which you think would make them appeal to voters in an election for mayor of Bristol.
    Perhaps you don’t want a mayor, as it seems easier to influence a group of people with slightly different levels of political strength and will, at present.

    Perhaps Pip Sheard would stand, or cockney Pete, old red trousers or his daughter, who always gets more than her fair share of representations anyway. I expect they’d rig the vote by voting the usual 10 or so times, depending on how many organisations they can attach themselves to.

  4. bobs permalink
    February 13, 2012 9:18 am

    Rich accuses George Ferguson of electoral fraud !!!

    Nice. Any basis for that allegation or were you misinformed by others again? In fact, is there any basis for anything you ever say ?

  5. February 13, 2012 11:17 am

    Mr Lane these are proper polls conducted with the utmost integrity and impartiality, you only get one vote unlike the bent petition you rustled up.
    Are you organising Scrumpy the Robin to stand in another monumental fix?
    Captain Gas would get a few more votes-business leaders and the Merchant Pirates and Slave traders would prefer that to a Robin.

  6. thebristolblogger permalink
    February 13, 2012 11:37 pm

    I may be running on an anti-capitalist/legalise marijuana/subsidise cider from the council tax ticket.

  7. Richard Lane permalink
    February 14, 2012 8:03 am

    BobS
    Do you ever read anything and understand it?
    I was saying that these people join lot’s of different organisations and use their influence within those organisations to increase their overall representation in matters they want to influence.
    Get a life, and before attacking everything I say or write, have the decency to read it.
    Bristol Blogger
    I’m sure you’ll get many votes from the spaced out people commenting on this site.

  8. Richard Lane permalink
    February 14, 2012 8:10 am

    Sacredspring
    Your true colours emerge.
    It’s a shame captain gas can’t pursuade a few more people to join him at the rugby ground.
    Do you mean bent petitionas in, getting pupils to sign it at school and college, or the pet section of the anti Tesco brigade?
    None of that happened with mine. And I wasn’t in a shop begging my customers to sign it and if they didn’t, I’d have to close the shop.

  9. thebristolblogger permalink
    February 14, 2012 8:13 am

    I may also include the right to bear arms against self-employed builders …

  10. February 14, 2012 11:32 am

    The pro-hypermarket bent petition had Nicaraguan budgies voting alongside Lanes hamster.

    This city has a good reputation for sustainability and attracting businesses in this field. Sadly the reputation is tarnished by greed merchant profit machines on green belt and allowing high st destroying hypermarkets to bully their way in at the expense of local businesses.

    The future of the city is dependent on sustainability not rampant expansion and dubious growth. New mayor needs to take note our carbon wasteful culture cannot continue, and ditch the selfish road schemes, crazy bendy buses and profit motivated handful of fatcat business bonus leaders.

  11. Richard Lane permalink
    February 15, 2012 8:51 pm

    Sacredspring
    If as you say there were budgies and my hamster signing my petition, one can only conclude that budgies and hamsters are after all, more discerning and intelligent than the local pets, villagers of surrounding counties, and school kids of Southville. After all, they were able to determine what was a politically driven campaign based on lies and exagerations.
    The future of the city is as you say dependent on sustainability. That is the sustainable heartbeat that business and industrious people bring to the city. With your prefered route, there will be no jobs, no wealth, no transport and no liesure facilities, because nobody will want to invest in such a place.
    There has to be tolerance and partnerships in all things to make them work, you offer no allowance to anyone with differing views from yours, you are welcome to your world and the few that would join you in it.

  12. Richard Lane permalink
    February 15, 2012 10:28 pm

    Bristol Blogger
    Your last comment is taken in jest.
    It’s the same sort of comment made about TVG supporters. Yet when made by football fans, is taken as a threat and intimidation, then bandied about various sites, exagerated a few times, then logged and put before a judge as evidence of such intimidation and threats.

    By the way Bill, you’d need them.

  13. harryT permalink
    February 16, 2012 10:38 am

    Richard

    The evidence that went in front of a judge involved actual bricks thrown through actual windows, real damage to cars, real threatening letters delivered through real letter boxes.

    The main issue with OTIB was the threats to break up the AV community meeting that was due to vote on the compormise offer – so causing the meeting to be cancelled. Also, Ole’s map shopping where to find the home of every objector to the supermakret didn’t go down to well either.

    By the way, neither the Club nor the Council made any objection to this evidence nor made any objection to the anonymity order.

  14. February 16, 2012 1:21 pm

    With your prefered route, there will be no jobs, no wealth, no transport and no liesure facilities, because nobody will want to invest in such a place.
    There has to be tolerance and partnerships in all things to make them work, you offer no allowance to anyone with differing views from yours, you are welcome to your world and the few that would join you in it.

    Mr eco-Lane looks like the South-west has bucked the unemployment stats. Nearly half that of the North East and nearly half that of the business bonus powerhouse of London.
    Sustainable development is the only way forward. The monster hypermarkets that destroy historic wealth producing local economy employing high streets must be demolished and banned by the new mayor.

    Unemployment in the regions between June and August was:

    Region / Total Unemployed / Change on quarter / Unemployment rate

    North East 142,000 plus 19,000 11.3%
    London 425,000 plus 28,000 10.0%
    South West 175,000 plus 5,000 6.6%

  15. Paul Bemmy Down permalink
    February 16, 2012 2:18 pm

    That throws a spanner into the Lord Mayor debate. Bristol judged the most business friendly small city in Europe. So who needs a Mayor, be it MP, Cllr. Billionaire, or even football mascott?

  16. Richard Lane permalink
    February 17, 2012 10:10 pm

    HarryT
    I take issue with you about your claim that OTIB intended to break up the AV meeting.
    I don’t believe it was as you’ve portrayed it. There may have been some idiots making stupid comments, but anybody in the real world would be able to differentiate those from real threats. As I remember, the aim of the announcement was to inform local people that supported the stadium and encourage them to voice their opinions at the meeting.
    Like many things organised by one group or another, people need to be brave enough in the knowledge that they will not be in the minority.
    Let’s get one thing clear, not one person has been convicted of any crime. There is no proof that the incidents have been carried out by city fans, it is after all possible that it’s a smear campaign. I have had my vehicles damaged on several occasions since I first started the petiton. I could claim that this is the act of raving anarchists, anti capitalists, TVG supporters, North St traders, members of the green party. It could be a coincidence though.
    Why would the club have an objection to anything as they are nothing to do with the process. It would seem petty in the eyes of a judge, for the landowners or a large council to seem bullyish towards a few in the local community, better for the TVG applicants to do that.

  17. Richard Lane permalink
    February 17, 2012 10:26 pm

    Sacredspring
    Of course the southwest bucks the national trend, it always does. It is not a finacial powerhouse, it is not a manufacturing monster. It is a diverse area covering many industries and you know it. Agriculture, tourism, aerospace, commerce, high tech, and the service industry. With such diverse employment fields it benefits from not having all it’s eggs in one basket. But you can’t really compare Bristol with the rest of rural southwest.
    Thomas must have been referring to you.

  18. Richard Lane permalink
    February 17, 2012 10:48 pm

    Sacredspring
    Pauls new leader and mine of old, has recently been recognised for his work in Bristol, which has helped the employment situation in Bristol for graduates from the University and others. Professors of the highest order, seem to value his and others like him and their ingenuity. You on the other hand, think that these reverred people are the enemy. Your actions are that of one that would clearly like to see the back of these sort of businessmen and their investment in Bristol.
    I agree that we also need the small businessman, but don’t kill the goose that lays the golden egg, in terms of investment from their private wealth inward to the city.

    Although the legacy of the Wills family is the highest level of lung cancer in the country here in south Bristol. They also created much employment and distribution of wealth throughout the region, as well as gifting many things to the people. With your ideals, you would most likely have fought against these people. The result being, that places like Ashton and Bedminster would not exist as they do today. With the loss of Wills, went the loss of jobs and more shops than any supermarket being built would possibly do.

  19. February 18, 2012 1:07 pm

    Mr Lung-Cancer expert Lane can I gently remind you that the worldwide headquarters of the coffin nail manufacturers is still here in Bedminster.
    What happened with the local family firm of the Wills who were great benefactors to the city as well as paternalistic employers is they became a globalised money-maker. Which means shifting production around the world to where wages is cheaper and a new population can be exploited to further shareholder profits. Loyal workforces are dumped for cheaper manufacturing elsewhere like at Cadburys when the lying vultures took over. Even local hero Dyson sold out to the cheap labour countries ditching 800 jobs.
    Hats off to the employers who stick with their loyal workforce and resist the temptation to up sticks to the cheap labour markets. But history shows that at a stroke of a globalised business pen it could be hero to zero, and job to no job. No mayor can stop that and an IoD favoured one even less likely.
    Dr Lansdowns graduation deserves its own post which you can look forward to with your usual avid anticipation

  20. Paul Bemmy Down permalink
    February 18, 2012 6:44 pm

    A last chance to “call-back” the Horizon program of last Monday. It was about the Earth Liberation Front and what they got up to in America about a decade ago. It shows how frustration can lead to extreme acts that can get out of hand, but I will leave you to watch if you get chance. What confuses me about the Mayor debate, is the pro side seem to argue that just the fact of having a mayor will bring untold riches. I don’t get that! Surely people of such diverse views as Ken Livingstone and Boris Johnson could not have had identical effects on London, and the Hartlepool result shows you cannot judge the electorate, so you could really end up with anybody. I hope to attend next weeks debate, it should be interesting, and I hope both sides stick to the facts. I seem to sense a linking of “no stadium, no arena” with the council which we all know would be unfair.

  21. February 18, 2012 7:42 pm

    Seem to have missed the horizon programme.
    I’ve yet to see any evidence on how a mayor can benefit.
    Its not like we’ve got the lawless downtown New York to sort out. And Juliano was it who cleaned it up and left the legacy of life imprisonment with no parole for stealing a slice of pizza.

  22. Richard Lane permalink
    February 18, 2012 8:00 pm

    Sacredspring
    May I gently remind you that the organisation you refer to is not Wills, it’s Imperial tobacco.
    They are not the major employer that Wills once was. Wills firstly moved their operation to Hartcliffe, and with it lost many jobs through automation, yet they stayed using local employees, until Imperial tobacco moved operations.

    What I refer to is, that if you were transported back to the days when Wills were building factories and enlarging their money and wealth making empire, you would most certainly have been fighting against them. Not because you thought they might one day become part of a global business but because, you wouldn’t have wanted to see such monster developments splitting the nice semi rural communities in half and enlarging their carbon footprint with an unsustainable business development.
    I heard on the radio this morning, references to George White and the legacy he left to Bristol. You again would no doubt have been against developing his business on the greenfield sites just outside of Bristol, to ther long term detriment of the thousands that gained employment from those developments, for what must be a hundred years now.
    We could well lose that valuable employment area to housing, because we aren’t allowed, according to some, to build the required housing elsewhere.

  23. Richard Lane permalink
    February 18, 2012 8:24 pm

    Paul
    Surely any debate about a mayor for Bristol is fueled by the fact that in many ways (not all), Bristol has failed miserably to actually move forward to the greater benefit of it’s residents. We are only lust getting a hospital for south Bristol after many decades and the new pool comes at the expense of many others. We are woefully short in the major facilities that other, on the face of it lesser places, have managed to acquire for their citizens.
    In my opinion, this is because we have not had a strong enough political party leading the council. This is down to many reasons, elections too frequently, a split local ellectorate, constantly being overlooked from central government in the form of grants, a divided region that fights against one another.
    Perhaps 4/5 yearly elections would help, or possibly a mayor but we have to improve Bristols facilities regardless of the outcome.

    I agree that neither Boris or Ken could have a massive effect on London but London has already done alright. What affect could a mayor have on an underachieving Bristol, that the constantly weak councils can’t and don’t? They have been changing power ever since the 70s, with the incoming party cancelling the previous party’s plans.
    Personally, I can see the beneffits of elections held every four or five years for continuity,
    though a mayor may well bring the same benefits, especially the initial financial benefits.

  24. February 18, 2012 8:27 pm

    Times are different now, we all know the Wills story without your silly history lecture. Oil is running out and some of us have grasped the mettle that degradation of the environment for profit cannot continue indefinitely.
    The coffin nail industry legacy has also been more death to local economy due to the massive retail sheds of Asdals and Imperial park, with an island of flats in the listed Cor10 HQ.
    The only light in the tunnel has been the regeneration kicked off by the Tobacco Factory.

  25. Richard Lane permalink
    February 18, 2012 9:21 pm

    Sacredspring

    If you knew the Wills story, why did you refer to it as a globalised money maker.
    The coffin making industry produced the local economy in the first place, nbow you blame it for killing it.
    When you talk of regeneration, do you mean the regeneration that resulted in the closure of the traditional pubs on the periphery of Bedminster and Ashton, which occured after the opening of the monster bar?
    Or the regeneration that has resulted in the loss of local shops in favour of the cafe/bistro/bar establishments? Whilst at the same time shifting the social centre of south Bristol, from East St to North St, and the detrimental effect on that area.
    Either way that so called regeneration has been at the expense of something somewhere else, perhaps a small theatre in town or a family owned restaurant.
    The bakery running in Georges property and the farmers market in Georges car park, will definately be at the expense of other retail establishments in the area. Still, at least he’ll have the money to do up the old brewery to live in, whilst renting the rest out. I can see Georges empire going the way of the global empires in a few years, probably starting with the selling off of his stake in the brewery.
    I doubt very much, that the moving and increasing in size of an existing supermarket will ever have that effect, well done George!.
    Didn’t you once argue about the negative effects that the new Sainsbury’s would have on what you now refer to as Asdas sheds, Asda keeps East St going regardless of Georges influence, such hypocrisy.

  26. Richard Lane permalink
    February 18, 2012 9:23 pm

    Times are different now, classic.

  27. February 19, 2012 12:43 am

    Now then Mr Lane don’t make yourself a laughing stock any more. The closure of pubs is due to cheap booze in the temples of the greed merchant retail monsters, combined with money grabbing so called developers and multinational pub chain companies.
    When I become mayor I will ban the closure and demolition of pubs.
    The Mayor must defeat the scourge of the High St and pub destroying Mega-stores.

  28. Richard Lane permalink
    February 19, 2012 9:06 am

    If that’s the case, why has the Tobacco Factory remained open when the traditional pubs around it have closed. Your theory is seriously flawed regarding the area we refer to. Within a short distance of the TF are several establishments selling cheap booze, yet it is the pubs on the periphery that have closed. We all know there are other reasons for pubs closing, but if you open a new pub and place of entertainment, somewhere else will suffer as a result. That’s been the major reason for the closure of the local pubs.

  29. Father Abraham permalink
    February 19, 2012 11:31 am

    “We all know there are other reasons for pubs closing, but if you open a new pub and place of entertainment, somewhere else will suffer as a result. That’s been the major reason for the closure of the local pubs.”

    Classic, from the man who insisted that the opening of a massive new supermarket would not harm North Street. So opening a new pub is a major reason for the closure of local pubs but opening a massive new supermarket has little or no effect on local shops!!

    Cue a Lane rant about how supermarkets only affect other supermarkets, or some other attempt to claim he didn’t say what he just said…….

  30. Deano permalink
    February 19, 2012 12:19 pm

    Don’t be silly Father Abraham,

    In Lane world, it is perfectly possible to say one thing and then deny it was said later.

    For example;

    “The stadium never depended on the supermarket, Mr Lansdown said, that if this is not successful, then funds would have to be found from another source. Only after so many stories were printed in the EP stating that the stadium was dependent on the supermarket plans, did Colin Sextone say “no supermarket no stadium” Mr Lansdown was constantly accused by Sacredspring and others of making these statements, yet they were the same statements printed by the EP on a daily basis wrongly credited to Mr Lansdown.”

    Except of course this is a lie. Lansdown did say “no foodstore – no stadium”

    Who says? Bristol City Football Club that’s who, and Lane has known this all the time.

    http://tinyurl.com/7ut59dv

    An e-petition put together by City fan Richard Lane supporting plans to build a supermarket at Ashton Gate has topped 2,000 names.

    The Say Yes To Tesco petition on the city council’s website has gathered 2,108 signatures in favour of the store. Fans can sign the petition by clicking here.

    Richard, a self-emplyed builded who is born and bred in the city, told bcfc.co.uk: “The people I’ve spoke to don’t have any major concerns against a new supermarket and welcome the chance to shop in a new store.

    “For the petition to be as successful as it has, it shows that people do feel strongly about the positive impact this new developmennt will have on South Bristol in particular and the region as a whole”

    Earlier this week City chairman Steve Lansdown called on supporters to show their support for the new stadium now – before it is too late City supporters can sign up.

    He said the message was clear: No foodstore = No new stadium. So now is the time for fans to make their voices heard.

    Visit supportcity.net to find out how to make a difference.

    Lane the Liar exposed again.

  31. Avid follower permalink
    February 19, 2012 4:28 pm

    We have have no Tobacco Factory or its like, where I live – and our local pubs have still closed, Not replaced with anything.

    The Tobacco Factory & The Lounge ( now with 20 branches) are still open because they’re serving a different generation who want something different, where its provided, that is.

  32. harryT permalink
    February 20, 2012 11:23 am

    I was about to start a post pointing out where Richard Lane’s comments were inaccurate, grossly inaccurate and just plainly intended to mislead – but I really can’t be bothered.

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